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Super Happy's avatar

Hi J & Daryl. I'm not sure if it's at my end, but I've been anxiously waiting for another podcast, but haven't received one since 12/27. I believe you closed your last one out by saying "see you next week"?. I hope all is well with both of you.

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J Gulinello's avatar

Absolutely and thank you for checking in with us! The intent wasn’t to take off two weeks but things got a little crazy at the end of the year but you will see the next episode this Sunday! We are back and we appreciate you😁

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Doug Williams's avatar

Just a thought on ozempic: normies are ozempic users. They also probably believe the food pyramid isn’t bs... and that meat is a carcinogen

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J Gulinello's avatar

These are the types of poor public health messages that have led to a society where multiple meds(that don't fix the problem) are the norm!

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Doug Williams's avatar

Oh I know. I’m 55 and have parents.

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Steve's avatar

Another great episode! If you do a part 3, I'm curious what a starting 16 hour fast looks like for a generally healthy adult without special circumstances, e.g., not pregnant. Since that's where the benefits start to kick in. What are some of the keys to success in such a 16 hour fast, should it be indefinite, or for a certain number of days, etc.?

Keep up the good work, and looking forward to seeing you on Quite Frankly!

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J Gulinello's avatar

Great question Steve! I think we should cover that actually. I think in the next conversation I want to touch on growth hormone and muscle loss a bit more. Maybe some myth busting! Should be fun tomorrow night on Frank’s show recreating the death of George Washington🤣

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Marilyn's avatar

It seems to me that not only having a tight schedule of things that have to be done starting shortly after waking up, but also rigorous activity of any kind beginning early in the day will take your mind off food. I don't get hungry on days like that. As you mentioned here, taking a relaxing break at home means more down time and more food.

I'm a 'caretaker' for a friend with progressively debilitating MS at least two full 8 to 9 hour days each week. This involves physical labor.

Because both of us need to eat at some point during the day, I bring with me lemon chicken soup made with chicken bone broth and arborio rice. Farmer friends from the local farmers market make prepared foods from their own pastured free-range animals and other farm friends with organically grown produce. I order from them by email each week and most of my food is from the farmers at the market. So, that basically is my first meal at 1 or 2 ish pm a couple days each week and is my only food until my late dinner at home. after a 'healthy' dinner the night before.

I have to have something quick and easy for her to eat and I have to help her eat it. She does telehealth (mental health counselor MSW) in her home office. We split 16 oz of that between 2 or sometimes 3 of us. I also usually bring gluten free 'seed' crackers to add to the soup. We drink coffee or water and she drinks a lot of Gatorade yuck.

Recently I had to clean day old Gatorade-soaked wood floors when I got there in the morning. She had spilled some the night before and her helper just soaked it up with paper towels. Then she spilled a whole container the next morning before i got there.

On topic, If it was an intentional weight loss thing; it wouldn't include rice or crackers but this is her most nutrient and calorie dense food for her whole day. She otherwise is at the mercy of whatever food her husband can gather along with other errands on his way home from his job an hour away.

They also have two daughters, now 20 and 16 years old. Jen was finally diagnosed with MS when she was 20 and it has gotten a lot worse the past few years. She's 51.

She also pays 'another aide' (and much more than I get). Since I am now committed to being a regular helper, I get paid something to compensate for my time and expenses.

As I said, I'm a long time friend and they are in a financial nightmare as a family with their own home and both are professionals with what might look like a solid income. As she is not able to function or do basic ADL's, there is an emotional, physical. and a financial drain. We discuss and work at any and every possible scenario and do our best to just get by. No perfect solutions here.

Back on topic, I wish I could say I was lean and fit. As far as a BMI chart, for what that is worth, I am in the early obese category. But, I'm functional, LOL. I'm in my so called 'golden years'. I also take care of my own home (divorced and my two sons have their own work and responsibilities) and I regularly lift and carry heavy things and am up and down a flight of stairs 4 to 8 times every day. I'm only 5'1" and use stepladders of climb on things too LOL. I do gardening and upkeep in my sloped yard.

I know Jen because I'm a family friend and know her mom from when we worked in the same place. She is several years younger than I am. Jen's Mom is not physically able to provide care at the level that I do for her daughter. But her mom still works for a living.

All this is to ask, am I right to just assume I am at an ok healthy weight for me, because I gave up the actual efforts to lose weight because, as you said, it always came back eventually. I haven't been to a doctor in several years. So, I don't know about any issues I could be unaware of, but also am not interested in looking for any.

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J Gulinello's avatar

I agree Marilyn...staying busy is a huge key to success in fasting. You raise lots of great questions here and first let me say how kind of you to take on that responsibility. I know its not easy. As for your own health...BMI is a terrible measure because it really only tells us one thing and not much detail even in that one thing. I think it’s good to get blood work done now and again to track progress so the short answer is...it’s tough to know with only a BMI to go on. I think it is wise to have given up on dieting and rather establish positive habits. It also sounds like you have a good handle on movement and nutrition(from what you wrote) but there are other factors like stress and sleep that can prevent the body from dropping fat mass if that is something that you want or you labs tell us. It might not be a bad idea to find a good functional doc or naturopath just for a check in to assess how you are doing from a metabolic health perspective. Just a thought.😁

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